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Harper's Kitchen: Dumplings!

Last night, I roasted a chicken, a nice, reasonably sized one, stuffed with peppers and onions and basted with homemade teriyaki sauce (soy sauce, brown sugar, garlic powder, onion juice). I wanted a taste similar to the chicken rice I grew to love in Singapore, so I made rice not in salty water but in salty chicken stock with a pinch of coriander.

There are only three of us, and although the chicken was yummy, it was slightly undercooked, which meant quite a lot of meat left on the bone. And so of course, what do you do when you have a big honking chicken carcass, plus an extra leg quarter, left ovre after dinner? You put it in the chicken broth you cooked that rice in, yes you do, and you put it on the hob, in a covered pot with a teeny tiny steamhole, at a very low simmerboil -- all night. Oh yes.

It came off the boil this morning, and I've been wondering how to serve it up for dinner. There just isn't enough chicken for a stew, and G hates stews anyway. I don't really care for thin soups, but putting the leftover rice from last night into today's soup would feel like we were having the exact same dinner all over again. Usually, I put stewed tomatoes in chicken soup, but I don't have any, and ih. I'm not in the mood for stewed tomatoes.

But then it came to me. As I stirred the cooling pot and looked up onto the kitchen bookshelf for inspiration, a single word entered my head and Would Not Leave. Oh, it's a word that made me happy in childhood, and it still makes me happy today. Yes, yes, yes, in Harper's head was the word, and the word was

Dumplings!


We will all have chicken and dumplings when she comes!

Right, so you UK people know, these are not those big cut dumplings you serve with beef stews over here. These will be drop dumplings, very simply made.

Before I get started on the dumplings, I'll cool down the broth and get rid of the chicken bones. My grandmother never used to do this in her chicken and dumplings; people just knew to work around the bones, but I think it's only fair to remove the bones and it doesn't take all that much time. There will still probably remain some bone bits in there, so if you're eating this, be careful!

Once I've got all the bones out, I'll add more chicken to the broth, because even though there was a decent amount of meat left over from last night, it's not enough to feed us all for dinner. I've got a package of chicken breasts in the tiny freezer bit of our fridge freezer, and I'll thaw that and add it to the broth. That broth will need to be renewed with a little bit of water and possibly a cube of chicken stock, and the new chicken will have to simmer in for a couple of hours. Some people take out the chicken before they put the dumplings in, but I don't usually do that.

Then it's time to make the dumplings. Now, these are good old fashioned Southern US dumplings, and I'm going to tell you how my grandmother made them and then how I'll have to change that recipe to work over here.

You need two cups of flour, a half-teaspoon of baking soda, a half teaspoon at least of salt, a few tablespoons of shortening, and at least half a cup of buttermilk.

Now, it's hard to get buttermilk and proper shortening over here, so I'm going to use butter and sweet milk*. Basically, you add the dry ingredients together, then cut in the butter or shortening until you have a coarse, grainy texture. Then, you stir in the milk until you have a not-too-runny doughy texture.

At this point, the soup itself should be boiling again. Pat the dough out 'til its about a quarter inch thick or so. Pinch off pieces of dough maybe as long as the length from fingertip to the first joint of your thumb, and drop them into the boiling water. Turn the heat down to a mediumish level and let the dumplings cook for 8-10 minutes. And then you have delicious chicken and dumplings!

Traditionally, chicken and dumplings is seasoned with an awful lot of black pepper. I'm not so much into black pepper, though I do put a little in. I like to season it with savoury herbs like sage or even oregano, adding the pepper only for taste. Then if people want seriously black pepper chicken and dumplings, they can pepper it up all they want at the table.

*Sweet milk is just what you call regular milk in a culture that uses a lot of buttermilk in cooking. My grandmother used more buttermilk than sweet milk when she cooked, so when she made a cake, she always had to make sure she had sweet milk on hand. I am pretty sure this construction is regional to the Southern US.

Date: 2006-03-06 11:15 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com
Ohhhhh, you making me hungry! We always boil up the chicken carcass for stock /soup makings, but I might be tempted to borrow this one as your instructions on the drop dumplings are very clear, yum.

Date: 2006-03-06 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
Yum. You could also add a tablespoon of lemon juice or vinegar to the sweet milk. In about five minutes, you have a credible buttermilk substitute.

No Crisco? How the hell do you bake anything over there? :-)

Date: 2006-03-06 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
I thought lemon juice soured milk, not made it buttermilky. Am I missing something about buttermilk?

Date: 2006-03-06 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
I've used it baked goods that call for buttermilk with comparable results. Maybe it wouldn't work so well for dumplings. In my family, we roll the dough a little thinner and cut them into short strips. Thems would be Gawja dumplin's, I s'pose. Hehe.

Date: 2006-03-06 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msminlr.livejournal.com
THOSE dumplings sound like the ones Pauline Hughes used to make when I was a kid.
Ms. Hughes was the black lady who kept house and minded me and my brother when mom went back to work after Ralph was born.
Her C&D have ruined me for anybody else's version.


and yes, we DID call her just "Pauline" back then

Date: 2006-03-08 12:34 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] gingicat
That's the way my grandmother made them. She grew up outside of Statesboro.

Date: 2006-03-06 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msminlr.livejournal.com
That lemon / vinegar trick works best with 4% milk in my experience. It encourages the milkfat to clabber. You gotta be real judicious in the amount of vinegar used, though, or it WILL come up sour-tasting.
My cornbread recipe calls for that, if there is not buttermilk available.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
It works fine for me with skim milk. The trick is to let it stand longer, NOT to add more vinegar/lemon juice.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janewilliams20.livejournal.com
I found buttermilk in Sainsburys once. Not common, and not cheap. After experiencing it, I decided that next time a recipe called for the stuff, I'd substitute a low-fat yoghurt as the nearest common equivalent.

Date: 2006-03-06 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
As for Crisco, I can get it in one grocery store that stocks a lot of American imports, but it's hella expensive and I mostly make yeasted breads that don't call for shortening, so have learned to use butter instead in most instances. Real Southern Biscuits, however, *really* need Crisco and buttermilk. :P

Date: 2006-03-06 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] msminlr.livejournal.com
I'll concur on the buttermilk, but I bet if you could talk to a cook from back then, they used lard in the biscuits.

After all, the butter was for the Massa's house.
The folks making the chicken & dumplings were using the leftovers (which is what buttermilk basically is: the liquid left in the churn after making the butter).

Date: 2006-03-06 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janewilliams20.livejournal.com
What is "Crisco", and why would you require it for baking?

Date: 2006-03-06 12:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
It's one of the best brands of pure vegetable shortening here in U.S. I knew she'd know what it was. :-)

Date: 2006-03-06 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
Yes, and there is *no* UK equivalent. Believe me, I've tried.

Date: 2006-03-06 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-lady.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, have you tried White Flora? I've been able to use it for *some* of my Crisco-using recipes.

Date: 2006-03-06 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
I have tried Flora, but it didn't work all that well for me. [livejournal.com profile] fleetfootmike recommended something called Trex (http://www.pura.co.uk/speciality.asp) to me earlier today, and we'll be trying that as well.

Date: 2006-03-06 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-lady.livejournal.com
Fair enough. I can't stand (normal) Flora, but White Flora has been useful to me for some of my baking (my banana bread recipe works well with it) and for things like roasting vegetables.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janewilliams20.livejournal.com
Which if course raises the question of what "shortening" may be, vegetable or otherwise. And eventually we may get down to answering how we've been baking for a few millennia without having ever heard of the stuff.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] aunty_marion
Lard, marge, butter. Depends what one is making - lard for savoury, butter for sweet, marge if you don't have butter or lard will do for either. But preferably a hard one, not a 'spreadable' one.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
Crisco is a very stiff shortening. I'll acquire some and show you sometime.

Date: 2006-03-06 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
This is why I'm learning to bake with butter, mostly. I don't tend to like margarines, and the proportions for butter are different. If you watch what you're doing, it's not hard to make the substitution, but US recipes that call for X shortening usually need X-something butter.

Date: 2006-03-06 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
Ah, sorry. I thought just the brand name was unfamiliar. It's a fat product made from vegetable oils, rather than animal, as lard is. Vegetable lard, I guess you could call it. Massively hydrogenated to be solid at room temperature. One can certainly bake without it, for millenia, even, but it sure comes in handy. Here, at least, it's cheaper than butter and can be purchased in large cans. Some lesser-quality brands combine animal and vegetable fats, but Crisco is one of the few brands I'm loyal to. It's essentially flavorless, so for some things it's more practical than butter. I have several cookie recipes that simply won't work with butter.

Date: 2006-03-06 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] janewilliams20.livejournal.com
A fat that you can store at room temperature without it going manky certainly sounds handy. And no, I don't think I've heard of anything like that here. Non-animal fats for baking generally means margarine.

Date: 2006-03-06 06:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
We'll see how I get on with Trex, (http://www.pura.co.uk/speciality.asp) and I'll be sure to write about it. ;)

Date: 2006-03-06 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keristor.livejournal.com
"Shortening" is what makes pastry etc. 'short' -- basically, any fat. In most traditional UK cooking this was lard for savoury and butter for sweet, although I tend to use butter for everything. There are now vegetable lard and butter substitutes, although the quantities used tend to be different (margarine in particular often has a lot more water than butter). I know a number of people who prefer kosher lard if they can get it.

(As to how we've been baking, it's just another case of different words for the same thing...)

Date: 2006-03-06 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
I certainly didn't mean to be offensive. I was commenting to [livejournal.com profile] telynor specifically, and I knew she would know what I meant because she learned how to cook in the U.S. Anyone who learned to cook or bake here would have some adjustments to make if shortening were not readily available.

Date: 2006-03-06 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
Oh, I don't think anybody was offended. At this point, there's about a 50/50 ratio of Brits and Americans who read and comment regularly here, so we often have fascinating terminology discussions here.

Me, I'm just curious as to why "short" pastry is called "short". :)

Hmmm. Interesting

Date: 2006-03-06 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
According to Wikipedia: Shortening is a semisolid fat used in food preparation, especially baked goods, and is so called because it inhibits the formation of long gluten strands in wheat-based doughs, giving them a "short" texture (as in shortbread). Shortening can be made from animal fat (lard), but is more commonly a hydrogenated vegetable oil that is solid at room temperature. Shortening has a higher smoke point than butter and margarine, and it has 100% fat content, compared to 80% for butter and margarine. Crisco, a popular brand, was first produced in 1911.

I always assumed it's because it's a bread thing that does use the "long" method, with yeast.

Date: 2006-03-06 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grey-lady.livejournal.com
*Sweet milk is just what you call regular milk in a culture that uses a lot of buttermilk in cooking.
In my experience, mostly true - but I *have* seen "sweet milk" used to refer to condensed (and sweetened) milk, just to confuse the issue. I have a banana bread recipe that calls for condensed milk as "sweet milk".

Date: 2006-03-06 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
Aie, that is confusing! I've never seen that before, but I'm sure it's happened. There are a couple of decent cooking terminology sites on the net; I'll have to look some of them up so we can have a Brit-American cooking terminology conversation (and hopefully get some voices from other places in on the discussion as well!).

Date: 2006-03-06 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinsf.livejournal.com
O o oh, I know this one! There's milk, which is usually buttermilk, and sweet milk, which is what we think of as regular milk, and Pet milk which is evaporated milk in cans, and *then* there's also sweet canned milk, which is sweetened condensed milk. As long as the canned reference is in there, you sometimes get stuff like this:

Caramel sauce

Take one unopened can of sweet milk and put it in a pot of simmering water. Cook for 30 minutes. Let cool. Open and serve over ice cream or cake.

Date: 2006-03-06 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinsf.livejournal.com
But of course, don't actually do this, because sometimes the pressure makes the can explode, and that's teh suck.

Date: 2006-03-08 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubynye.livejournal.com
If you put a folded kitchen towel beneath the can of milk, and make sure it's completely submerged and cooked on a very low simmer (I cook mine in a 225 F oven overnight) the risk of explosion is lessened.

And the caramel gold is worth the peril. :D

PS Harper, I want to come to dinner at your house!

Date: 2006-03-06 04:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com
Me again, I was telling mum about the recipe and she thinks it sounds ideal so we'll make it next week... when you spoke about the extra chicken you add, is that pre-cooked or raw please? Also, do you need to skim the fat off the top of it when you remove the bones or at any stage (we normally boil up the carcass for stock, let it cool then skim the fat off before freezing).

Date: 2006-03-06 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
If I were going to add extra chicken, I'd add it raw. It'll boil nicely in 1.5 hours or so at a simmer.

And-- it may just be where I come from, or it might just be my personal taste, but I rarely skim fat from anything, unless there is just a whole lot way too much of it. I do drain mince when cooking with it, but I don't skim fat off the top of chicken soup-- I stir it in.

Date: 2006-03-06 08:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] hobbitblue.livejournal.com
Cut into bits, I assume? Excellent, thanks.

I've been pondering this actually, the chickens these days seem to have a lot less fat than in days of yore, I know mum learned her technique of making stock from my granny who was always on a strict diet, so maybe the diet combined with fattier birds led to the "thou shalt skim" thing. Or maybe its because stock is usually made to freeze up for future use rather than making into something fresh and so gets chance to form a layer of fat on the jellied base... Certainly the stuff we made the other day had hardly any fat on top so I'm sure it'll be fine. I don't drain mince when cooking, I think mum still does, we get the extra lean stuff though which helps.

Date: 2006-03-06 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kierly.livejournal.com
Mmmmmmmmm dummmmmplings... *salivating a la Homer Simpson*

Date: 2006-03-06 06:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
Oh, c'mon. You can get 'em canned where you come from! ;)

Date: 2006-03-06 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fionnabhar.livejournal.com
Ew. That's an abomination, that is.

Date: 2006-03-07 03:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kierly.livejournal.com
Noooo. No cans!! However, Cracker Barrel makes some pretty tasty chicken and dumplings...

Date: 2006-03-06 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherokeepurple.livejournal.com
Wow! I'll appreciate chicken and dumplings from now on. The tiny coffee house/cafe I manage serves them homemade every Saturday. This goes against all Southern cooking culture, ever, but we use Pillsbury canned biscuits right from the fridge. No one has noticed.;)

Date: 2006-03-06 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinsf.livejournal.com
Well, no, I know people who did that too, but when you used things like that, what you get is *rolled* dumplings*, not *dropped* ones. The consistency is different because of the texture of the dough and the err, edges.

Date: 2006-03-07 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
I now know what to tell [livejournal.com profile] flower_cat to put in your goodie basket (for you to take home) for next year's Consonance (http://www.consonance.org).

Date: 2006-03-07 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telynor.livejournal.com
*grin*

Has there been an official net press release on that yet? I was waiting until I saw something before posting about it. :)

Date: 2006-03-07 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinsf.livejournal.com
OMG, does this mean you're coming back, and without my intervention? Hmm!

Date: 2006-03-07 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] figmo.livejournal.com
It was announced Saturday night at the convention. It is therefore public and you can brag accordingly. :-)

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